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Abortion is not a crime by impersonalinfo Abortion is not a crime by impersonalinfo
Well now I'm in a pretty pickle. I know for a fact I didn't make up this slogan, but Google isn't helping me find out who did.

Credit goes to whoever. :P
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:iconvanuinfiltrator:
VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner 9 hours ago  Hobbyist Writer
:popcorn:
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:iconlumaelric:
LumaElric Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Student Digital Artist
It's not your choice tho
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:iconprincessskyler:
PrincessSkyler Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
"But it should be"
Dude
I hate the fact it exists too BUT
It's THEIR CHOICE so just buzz off.
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:iconroz-swa:
roz-swa Featured By Owner 5 days ago
abortion is not a crime and it should not be.

i don't care what you think, if a woman wants to fucking abort the damn potato, let her abort it.
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:iconrain-bowy:
Rain-bowy Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Abortion isn't a crime. And never will be... :P
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:iconbreeozoa:
breeozoa Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nah,son. The stupidity of people who agree with this stamp should be illegal. : )
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:iconda-epic-ninja:
Da-Epic-Ninja Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015  New member Hobbyist Artist
Though the great thing is that personal opinions have not been made illegal.... yet. Who knows when the thought police will get to this. As for my own opinion? Not telling ;P .
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:iconbreeozoa:
breeozoa Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's right. But certain opinions are dangerous and can,therefore, hurt people (or other beings) in the moment they become a reality.
To me,those opinions don't really deserve respect.
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:iconda-epic-ninja:
Da-Epic-Ninja Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015  New member Hobbyist Artist
We can go really philosophical on this. Do you wanna? I'll only go if you want to.
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:iconbreeozoa:
breeozoa Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not really. I wouldn't really change my mind on this topic anyway. Thanks for asking though.
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:iconda-epic-ninja:
Da-Epic-Ninja Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015  New member Hobbyist Artist
No prob.
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:iconnintendofan2468:
NintendoFan2468 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2015
Nah!It shouldn't!I'd prefer a woman over a stupid fetus ANY DAY!Who here agrees?
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Bingo!
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
That stupid fetus could cure cancer one day moron
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:iconjinxdrowned:
JINXDROWNED Featured By Owner Edited 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So could the woman who got pregnant with a child she didn't want and couldn't get the medical education she wanted because she had to care for the child on her own.
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
That fetus could be the next John Wayne Gacey or Stalin. Stupid argument is stupid.
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
Not if the child is raised right he won't be  
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
How do you know? Plenty of people turn to crime (including murder) despite having normal upbringings. They might even be raised well, get a brain injury later in life, and become an entirely different person. Thus my point stands: If you can whinge about how a fetus might become a cancer-curing doctor (again, despite the fact that this is purely speculative nonsense), it is perfectly logical to say that the fetus could turn into Stalin.
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
But killing something before it even has a chance to live is cruel 
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
And now you're shifting the goalposts. Even you must realize how indefensible your previous argument was.
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:iconnintendofan2468:
NintendoFan2468 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
Where does it say it cures cancer?
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
That person inside of that women could be a successful doctor or scientist one day
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:iconnintendofan2468:
NintendoFan2468 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
Bro,what if the thing is unwanted.
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:iconnateflazh1000:
Give it up for adoption 
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:iconnintendofan2468:
NintendoFan2468 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
there is a 99.99% chance the child will not get adopted and just live a boring,sad,miserable life without any love.Also do you know that abortion stops crime? here - www.slate.com/articles/news_an…
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
Abortion does not stop crime because abortion in it's self is a crime. If that's true then were did you get your numbers from huh?
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
So a woman shouldn't have control over her own body?
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
If it means killing a life no she shouldn't
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Edited Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Well that means tossing out a large part of American law (and probably most laws under other legal systems in the developed world) that deals with personal autonomy. According to this line of reasoning, it should be perfectly legal for me to connect myself to someone else's body if I'm losing blood since I might die, regardless of whether the person likes it or not.

If you aren't okay with this, why does a fetus get special rights to do so?

Also, most fertilized zygotes never implant, and of those that do, a rather significant proportion of them miscarry. In total, a minimum of 50% of all fertilizations never make it to term, but that's a very conservative number and the real percentage could be as high as 70%. This is caused by the woman's own body directly rejecting said zygote/embryo/fetus. Should we haul miscarrying women into court for "killing a baby?"
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
It's a potential human life. Also killing a baby shouldn't be legal 
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UltimateUmbreonART Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2015  Student General Artist
Its only a baby when it comes out. Before that, its a fetus.
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2015
Still not giving it a chance at life 
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:iconultimateumbreonart:
UltimateUmbreonART Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2015  Student General Artist
I'm not going to dignify that with a real response.  
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
So what? That is a piss poor excuse to deny someone the rights to determine what happens to their own body. Again, under this logic, it should be okay to accost strangers on the street and force them to be connected to you so that you can survive a dangerous injury, despite what a nightmare that would be for personal civil liberties.

Also, most fertilized zygotes never implant, and of those that do, a rather significant proportion of them miscarry. In total, a minimum of 50% of all fertilizations never make it to term, but that's a very conservative number and the real percentage could be as high as 70%. This is caused by the woman's own body directly rejecting said zygote/embryo/fetus. Should we haul miscarrying women into court for "killing a baby?"
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NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
A miscarriage is on accident an abortion in on purpose 
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:iconmclandis:
Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
The result is identical (termination of a pregnancy). Miscarriage can happen even if the pregnancy was perfectly viable from the start. A good example is if the mother and the fetus have differing blood types; the mother's body will try to stop the pregnancy even if nothing else is wrong. I find it rather telling that the anti-choicers pretend these problems don't exist, yet will fight tooth and nail to keep a pregnancy going where the fetus is clearly incompatible with life or where the mother is far too young for the pregnancy.

You still haven't answered my question about forcing a random stranger to be a blood donor. I take it that means you approve of forcing others to be life-support machines against their will.
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:iconnateflazh1000:
NateFlazh1000 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
No I don't support that but that's not what we are talking about 
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:iconlolli-palooza:
Lolli-Palooza Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes it really should! 100% with you. 
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:iconlove-peace-and-candy:
I seriously don't get y pro-choicers are always on pro-life stuff it's honestly infuriating
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:iconmisterjones4899:
MisterJones4899 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015
If pro-choicers were in power, they would not create laws that force others to get abortions.

If pro-lifers were in power, they would create laws that force others to carry to term.

Ultimately, pro-lifers seek to control the actions of everyone else.  That is why pro-choicers are vocal on stamps such as this one.
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Love-peace-and-candy Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
I'm not saying you can't have a opinion, I honestly neutral and have mixed opinions on the matter. But this stamp was directed at pro-lifers and the pro-choice comments were not needed
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:iconmisterjones4899:
MisterJones4899 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
From the perspective of the pro-choicers, comments on stamps like this ARE needed, for the reasons I already pointed out.

I'm sorry if this frustrates you, but if pro-choicers do not voice opposition, enough pro-lifers will eventually get into positions of power to pass laws that outlaw abortion, thereby transforming their opinion into dictatorship.
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Love-peace-and-candy Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
All of this is unneeded. It is annoying because people can't keep certain things to themselves. Sorry if I'm coming off rude but all this pro-life vs Pro-choice is getting old. I can see where both sides are coming from, but it's people who think it's so needed to drive a point home bye flaming up a stamp by going
"BUT ITS THE WOMANS CHOICE!!!!!1!!!!1"
Or
"BUT YOU'RE KILLING INNOCENT LIVES!!!!1!!!1"
Or the most infuriating of them all
"FETUSES ARE JUST PARASITES, THEY SUCK THE NUTRIENTS OUT OF OUR BODIES!!!!!11111!!!!"
And though two out of three of those have a point, no one is going to listen to someone who goes on something they know they're not going to like just to state why they don't agree. And no, even if a law like that comes, someone will remove it because it is wrong to fully ban abortion because it is sometimes needed
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MisterJones4899 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015
You're not coming off as rude, just frustrated.

And that's OK.  I've been frustrated with people countless times, so I know where you're coming from.

In your first post, you asked a question.  I answered that question to the best of my ability.  That's all I can really do.

As I type this, I see the groups this stamp is featured in.  They are "Controversial-Ideas" and "Thoughtroversy".  That tells me that the stamps maker already knew that there would be strong opposing viewpoints.  The stamp creator could have disabled comments and got the last word in that way, but chose not to.  Why?

People WILL listen to opposing viewpoints, so long as they are polite, respectful, well researched and well written.  If that fails, go with bold, double sized capslock:)

Lastly, here is a little nugget from Tod Akin, who was a  U.S. Representative for Missouri's 2nd congressional district, serving from 2001 to 2013.

Full Wikipedia article here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Aki…

In a local news interview, on August 19, 2012, discussing abortion, Todd Akin made the claim that victims of what he described as "legitimate rape" very rarely become pregnant. Airing on St. Louis television station KTVI-TV, as he ran as U.S. Representative for Missouri's 2nd congressional district for the U.S. Senate seat held by Claire McCaskill, his response to a question on rape exceptions for abortion was:

Well you know, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, well how do you, how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare. If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let's assume that maybe that didn't work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.[57]

Here is a 'Good Christian' who wants to pass laws restricting abortion, has no knowledge of how a woman's body works (and probably doesn't care), and was in a position to help push those laws through.

He is not alone.  Far from it, actually.  Him and people like him are why I am on my soapbox here and other places where I haven't been silenced.
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
That, I understand.
Typical pro choice person: "Hurr mah gur! Eye don't like this opinion! Time to bash this person!"
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:iconsilentrisingsun:
SilentRisingSun Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
They just want to complain.
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:icondragonstar2197:
DragonStar2197 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
it's also vice-versa.
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:iconsilentrisingsun:
SilentRisingSun Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Vice-versa? How so?
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DragonStar2197 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've seen quite a few pro-lifers on pro-choice related posts. and several of them do whine like children.
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Rezina-The-FluffyCat Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yup exactly, thank you!
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