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it should be obvious enough from all the other things I'm into that I don't give a damn what another woman does with her own body.

It's when you start to claim that "your body" includes something that is quite clearly another person entirely - sleeping when you're awake and waking when you're asleep, using its own eyes to look at things you'll never see, experiencing dreams that you'll never know about, hearing the same things you do day in and day out and processing them independently without consulting you etc., that the argument gets a little ridiculous.

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:iconsupergirl0987:
supergirl0987 Featured By Owner 7 hours ago  Student General Artist
And who's taking care of what ISN'T her body?
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Mountaineer-Kristoff Featured By Owner 3 days ago
What is with these people advocating murder? If a woman wants control of her body than she should learn self control otherwise she is letting hormones control her body and not her.
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Blueneonkid Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Even as somebody who has no opinion on abortion, the "her body, her choice" argument is flawed. 
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SociaIIyAwkward Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Exactly. That "other person" is inside a woman's body, using it. The woman doesn't want another person inside her body. Either that "person" can get out and leave her body alone, or she can get rid of it because the "person" is technically a trespasser for her. 
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Rileyer Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2015  New member Hobbyist Digital Artist
if i ever become pregnant that fetus is goin down the drain

goodbye forever
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Dolcinea Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015  Professional Interface Designer
Abortion should not be a crime, because a fetus is just a embryo, a clump of cells that is forming a life and it's not murder unless it has passed through the earliest stage or is born.

During sexual reproduction, after a woman's egg is fertilized, a zygote is formed which goes through a stage called "Mitosis" and creates a multicellular organism. And during the stage, the embryo or fetus, it is highly undeveloped.

So let me get this straight after this; A girl who is under the age of thirteen who is pregnant after being raped, do you know what is going to kill her? Birth is. Also, if a teen is pregnant and decides to abort, that would be much better because a baby is just going to ruin her education and life at this young age.

Also, if that younger than thirteen year old girl goes through with birth, it can kill her and the baby too. So what would you rather have? A fetus that is not highly developed yet be removed, or the possibility of losing two good lives? Choose wisely.

And if someone who is old enough but decides to abort? I'm sorry but that's her choice and no one should tell her otherwise. She is just removing a clump of cells, that's all.

Oh, and keep this is mind. This is coming from a person who doesn't like abortion and wouldn't do it herself I am not going to get my panties in a twist over it though.
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HelloThere9999 Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015
But what if the mother wants that body out of her body.
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OrionInspiration Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2015
This is very true, it's stating the obvious. But the fetus is the mother's PROPERTY, and HER OWN RESPONSIBILITY. Her decisions are none of your business. You're taking away a human right for independence, and it's sickening. The mother might not want the child, and decide to have an abortion. But before she does this, how about we GIVE HER SOME EASIER ACCESS TO CHOICES AND INFORMATION
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Starry-Nightt Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015
yes, if im sexuality hurt, I should not remove the child from my body even if i have no funds to raise a baby
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OrionInspiration Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2015
That is your choice, and people can only respect that. No one should be forced to do anything, right? So why are you forcing women to not get abortions? It's their choice, and it's none of our business.
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Starry-Nightt Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2015
I was being sarcastic
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2015   Writer
Can I at least abort a facehugger? Like, those chestbursters from Aliens. 
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Timber-K Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I chortled.
Thank you.
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2015   Writer
You's welcome~
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TheMarquisOfDorks Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2015  Student General Artist
The smaller, underdeveloped body inside the big, developed, thinking one doesn't deserve the same rights, nor should it be treated as an equal to a sentient human being. Any belief otherwise is dumb and anybody arguing the big sentient body housing the small non-sentient one has no right to decide whether or not they want the small non-sentient one inside them is a jackass trying to strip another person of their bodily autonomy.
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Kote-417 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2015  New member Student General Artist
Clap 
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PyramidHead90 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
You're right.  Her body.
End of story.  If you could find a way to keep the embryo or zygote alive after being aborted that'd be one thing.  But in the end it's HER body.  She is not obligated to play host to something dependent on her body.
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Mountaineer-Kristoff Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Then she should abstain from sexual relations if she want's full control.
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PyramidHead90 Featured By Owner 3 days ago
It doesn't work that way.  She always has that full control.  She can still say "No" to sex with someone she's married with, she can still say "No" to getting medical treatment she doesn't want, and she can still pursue an abortion even if other people complain.  Her right to her body doesn't become compromised simply because she didn't follow a puritanical view on the subject, and that right does override the "Rights" of something completely dependent on her body that isn't an individual life yet.
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Mountaineer-Kristoff Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Yes it does! Why should innocent blood be paid for the lack of someone's self control? If you don't believe that then let me put it in terms your people can understand like money. Why should people pay for someone else's pleasure in bed when they are working hard to provide for their families and that money could be used to create more jobs and stimulate the economy?
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PyramidHead90 Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Well i suppose the bible did have an interesting way of someone paying for a lack of self control, but forcing a rape victim to marry after her father gets paid $40 doesn't really fit into today's society.  In fact it seems to be a strange recurring theme that the issues of abortions, unsafe sex, underage sex, and unwanted pregnancies are most prominent in the Bible Belt where proper sex ed isn't always given, instead they only offer abstinence only education despite decades of research and medical statistics very, very, VERY clearly showing it doesn't work.  Why, it's almost as if puritanical preachings and narrow minded devotion to dogma backfires.  Constantly.

Also, where does the "Paying for someone's pleasure in bed" thing come into play?  If she got pregnant chances i wasn't paying for her pleasure because she was either having unprotected sex meaning no government guaranteed birth control or he didn't pick up a condom, and it's also possible she didn't know about safe sex, so no tax funded sex ed entered play.  Also, are you sure you actually give a damn about hard working families?  Seems to me you expect them to pass an idiotic religious litmus test and only seem to acknowledge families with a mother and father.  Does a family, despite working it's ass off to guarantee a good life for their kids, suddenly become invalid because it's two women?  You really do come off as someone who has no actual opinion on this matter and just regurgitates the same useless arguments i've heard thousands of times from useless religious fundamentalists who should have stopped existing in developed nations decades ago and yet still seem to be deluded enough to make outrageous claims like "AMERICA IS A CHRISTIAN NATION!"
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Mountaineer-Kristoff Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Excuse me but even Jesus said that not all Who say, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of Heaven. And don't bring an old testament law in that is no longer relevant when Christ has fulfilled the law! You are only using the ad-hominem fallacy and thus your argument is invalid.
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PyramidHead90 Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Funny thing about ad hominem.  See, if i were to do something like say your opinion is invalid because Frozen is overrated, that would be an ad hominen attack.  It muddies the issue, isn't relevant.

But when the point is valid, then it's no longer fallacious.  You are approaching women's health issues and showing signs of a very, very ugly bias.  A fundamentalist Christian dismissing things like contraceptives and abortion as "Reckless fun" and "Spilling Innocent Blood" typically is a sign that someone involved isn't thinking.  That someone involved doesn't have an opinion or even a real sense of morals, you just parrot what you hear other fundie whackjobs say.  And i haven't exactly been sold on you being reasonable and actually having moral objections.  The overtly bigoted things in your favorites list and your quickness to dismiss one of the many signs of misogyny in the bible aren't exactly endearing you to me.
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Mountaineer-Kristoff Featured By Owner 3 days ago
What does Frozen have anything to do with this? I'm talking about the innocent lives killed by "Planned Parenting." Call me what you want but you are no more than a parrot for what you support. Plus I would only expect your views to be equally bigoted.
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Edited Feb 27, 2015
Embryo≠Human baby.

Was that too complicated?
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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
And what does it solve to say that?
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
And what does it solve to say that?
Ehh I dunno perhaps THE FALSE IDEA THAT LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION?!!

You know that line that anti-choicers keep saying in order to eliminate women’s basic right to control over their own bodies?!!
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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
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Life does begin at conception:lmao:
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
I found hilarious how many pro-life supporters say that(I'm not saying you are one I'm just making my point). And provide many scientific reports yet they conveniently ignore the fact that the vast majority of scientific community is still at the end of the day pro-choice. The very same people who made that phrase still disagree with you. Since the beginning of something doesn't imply that that "something" it's already fully developed (which itself is the product of a complex process it's still not sentient, it's still not independent and it's still not a human being)and therefor shouldn't be considered as so.
That only shows at the end of the day you use a phrase yet you don'y know it's meaning.

I already made stamp of this:
zidneya.deviantart.com/art/Lea…

The real question is why questioning me about the fact that embryo isn't an human? What does it solve to question that?
While I at the other hand at the end of the day my question still remains.
Was that too complicated?
And considering you didn't get it I'm gonna take your "And what does it solve to say that?" as a yes.

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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
:iconmindblownplz: you know what? there's a difference between "beginning of life" and "fully developed"... a HUGE difference. Even I and probably you too arent "fully developed" yet as the brain is not completely developed until 24/25 years old. So what? before something is "fully developed" it's "perfectly okay" to kill it?

I was questioning you because I suspect you're just saying "embryo, not human baby" in order to make abortion sound okay, which isnt a valid argument.

I'm pro-choice to an extent by the way. If a couple had consensual sex, didnt properly use protection and can manage it financially, they keep it. It wouldnt be "people controlling them" it would be them being irresponsible and forgetting that sex is not only for fun in the end. I'm okay with sex for fun but for fuck's sake no more "oh noes we had sex and a fetus formed, what the fuck??? remove it!!" and "evil people control me because I cant manage to control myself and use proper protection:iconcryingderpplz:"
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015

you know what? there's a difference between "beginning of life" and "fully developed"... a HUGE difference. 

yeah I know that's what I just said to you.


Even I and probably you too arent "fully developed" yet as the brain is not completely developed until 24/25 years old.

Nooo?!! You think?!!!


So what? before something is "fully developed" it's "perfectly okay" to kill it?

Yeah right because the brain is the only organ that isn't fully developed, you know limbic circulatory system pulmonary, and the rest are they just fine. What part of process you don't fully understand is not only the brain everything is in the process of develop therefor just because is in that process it doesn't count as a fully alive entity so I wouldn't use the term "kill" while we stop that process. So allow me to rephrase your question.

So what? before something is "fully developed" it's "perfectly okay" to stop its growth?

And my answer is, "If the female who is brewing that entity doesn't want it" well YES!!(I'm pro choice I thought I had left that clear, so apparently you can't even understand the obvious, well you weren't kidding when you said your brain isn't fully developed)


I was questioning you because I suspect you're just saying "embryo, not human baby" in order to make abortion sound okay

Abortion is okay.


which isnt a valid argument.

Then why does the development of the fetus is the most significant fact that determines the morality of abortion?


I'm pro-choice to an extent by the way.

Theres no such thing your'e either pro-choice because you fully back up that choice or don't.

If a couple had consensual sex, didnt properly use protection and can manage it financially, they keep it.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! What ah! hahahaha! You think that the only think that people worries when they think about parenthood is the money? Also didn't properly use protection? You do realize that condoms aren't always sure right? 


It wouldnt be "people controlling them"

You just said they if they can financially manage it they keep it and that's not controlling it? If they can manage it yeah right. I can imagine it: You two can afford a baby now have it, But But… I have dreams and a demanding career and having a kid is very life consuming, and I don't want to have a baby right know. Deciding for other people the criteria of how they should keep or abort a fetus isn't controlling them pal?


it would be them being irresponsible and forgetting that sex is not only for fun in the end.

My sexual encounters purpose are what I and my partner decide. And if you don't like it too bad.


I'm okay with sex for fun but for fuck's sake no more "oh noes we had sex and a fetus formed, what the fuck??? remove it!!"

If you don't have the guts to back up your sexual relationships and you aren't willing to take the hard choices that's up to you. Me on the other hand made my choice when I say "remove it" a long time ago.

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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015
*Noo you didnt, you literally told me that life doesnt begin at conception
*Yes I think so
*yes, and the skeleton too which isnt fully complete until puberty... as a whole, a newborn is still very fragile and overall completely dependent on its parents.:lmao:
Well your brain obviously isnt fully developed either because you didnt get that I understood you were pro-choice.
*:iconmindblownplz:I know it's fucking acceptable, I said "sound" because just using vocabulary to eliminate any emotional appeal toward a fetus does not make a good point.
*because at some point it shouldnt be possible anymore to consider a fetus as a disposable clump of cells.
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*well if you abort while being fully able to support it meh fuck it, do what you want, it's not like I care.:lol: and I think there's that "tomorrow's pill" if the condom breaks?
*Okay, it would be controlling people who fail to control themselves!
*It's not me not liking it it's how nature originally meant it.:B
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Preach it!
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015
Should I use the word Embryo? or Fetus?
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I would use the word fetus. And embryo is pretty much a cell.
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Edited Mar 7, 2015
Here it is.
I apologize I did it in a hurry. It's a little rough.
zidneya.deviantart.com/art/Lea…
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, I love the stamp you made! It looks great!
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015
Thanks.
I didn't even asked you that if it is okay to mention you in the stamp description, is it okay?

I even made another stamp anticipating the (predictable) complains.

zidneya.deviantart.com/art/Abo…
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That would be fine c:

And I like the new stamp too ^^
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The fetus, from the moment it's formed, is under full custody of the parents. It may not be a part of the woman's body, but until it becomes a baby, it is her property. Go on, argue with me. I fucking dare you.
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HK-0391 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2015   Digital Artist
Ftmry by Hoshi-0461
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Ajones123 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015
Derp
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmmm derp to you as well
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Ajones123 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015
yep
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somedudefromEARTH Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for making this stamp.
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fidofia Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I am grateful for all the nice people in these comments who actually have good things to say.
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Phoenix-Galaxy1010 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Baby's are parasites. When mothers say I'm pregnant I think of the movie alien when a baby alien pops out of the stomic. XD we where all parasites feeding off what our mother fed us. Fuck, we where all like tapeworms!! Oh and if you had a virus , you probably wouldent wanna take care of it cause oh all life is precious awwwhhh. Yes I'm comparing a baby to a virus. The baby is not alive until it takes its first breath. It can't think, or feel pain. It just makes the host nausious and eats what the mother consumes therefore its a parasite.
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Tanadia Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't care, my body comes first :)
If something's growing in my womb and I don't want it there, its getting the coat hanger. 
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GantzAistar Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015
How about using birthcontrol first?
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Tanadia Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do use birth control ;D
Nothing is a 100% and I'm not going to stop having sex with my fiance. 
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