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it should be obvious enough from all the other things I'm into that I don't give a damn what another woman does with her own body.

It's when you start to claim that "your body" includes something that is quite clearly another person entirely - sleeping when you're awake and waking when you're asleep, using its own eyes to look at things you'll never see, experiencing dreams that you'll never know about, hearing the same things you do day in and day out and processing them independently without consulting you etc., that the argument gets a little ridiculous.

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people making controversial stamps and then disabling the comments are like my primary source of inspiration lately.
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:iconmissmuffintop:
MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner 6 hours ago   Writer
Can I at least abort a facehugger? Like, those chestbursters from Aliens. 
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:iconthemarquisofdorks:
TheMarquisOfDorks Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2015  Student General Artist
The smaller, underdeveloped body inside the big, developed, thinking one doesn't deserve the same rights, nor should it be treated as an equal to a sentient human being. Any belief otherwise is dumb and anybody arguing the big sentient body housing the small non-sentient one has no right to decide whether or not they want the small non-sentient one inside them is a jackass trying to strip another person of their bodily autonomy.
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Kote-417 Featured By Owner 5 days ago  New member
Clap 
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PyramidHead90 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
You're right.  Her body.
End of story.  If you could find a way to keep the embryo or zygote alive after being aborted that'd be one thing.  But in the end it's HER body.  She is not obligated to play host to something dependent on her body.
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Edited Feb 27, 2015
Embryo≠Human baby.

Was that too complicated?
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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
And what does it solve to say that?
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:iconzidneya:
Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
And what does it solve to say that?
Ehh I dunno perhaps THE FALSE IDEA THAT LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION?!!

You know that line that anti-choicers keep saying in order to eliminate women’s basic right to control over their own bodies?!!
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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
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Life does begin at conception:lmao:
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
I found hilarious how many pro-life supporters say that(I'm not saying you are one I'm just making my point). And provide many scientific reports yet they conveniently ignore the fact that the vast majority of scientific community is still at the end of the day pro-choice. The very same people who made that phrase still disagree with you. Since the beginning of something doesn't imply that that "something" it's already fully developed (which itself is the product of a complex process it's still not sentient, it's still not independent and it's still not a human being)and therefor shouldn't be considered as so.
That only shows at the end of the day you use a phrase yet you don'y know it's meaning.

I already made stamp of this:
zidneya.deviantart.com/art/Lea…

The real question is why questioning me about the fact that embryo isn't an human? What does it solve to question that?
While I at the other hand at the end of the day my question still remains.
Was that too complicated?
And considering you didn't get it I'm gonna take your "And what does it solve to say that?" as a yes.

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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
:iconmindblownplz: you know what? there's a difference between "beginning of life" and "fully developed"... a HUGE difference. Even I and probably you too arent "fully developed" yet as the brain is not completely developed until 24/25 years old. So what? before something is "fully developed" it's "perfectly okay" to kill it?

I was questioning you because I suspect you're just saying "embryo, not human baby" in order to make abortion sound okay, which isnt a valid argument.

I'm pro-choice to an extent by the way. If a couple had consensual sex, didnt properly use protection and can manage it financially, they keep it. It wouldnt be "people controlling them" it would be them being irresponsible and forgetting that sex is not only for fun in the end. I'm okay with sex for fun but for fuck's sake no more "oh noes we had sex and a fetus formed, what the fuck??? remove it!!" and "evil people control me because I cant manage to control myself and use proper protection:iconcryingderpplz:"
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015

you know what? there's a difference between "beginning of life" and "fully developed"... a HUGE difference. 

yeah I know that's what I just said to you.


Even I and probably you too arent "fully developed" yet as the brain is not completely developed until 24/25 years old.

Nooo?!! You think?!!!


So what? before something is "fully developed" it's "perfectly okay" to kill it?

Yeah right because the brain is the only organ that isn't fully developed, you know limbic circulatory system pulmonary, and the rest are they just fine. What part of process you don't fully understand is not only the brain everything is in the process of develop therefor just because is in that process it doesn't count as a fully alive entity so I wouldn't use the term "kill" while we stop that process. So allow me to rephrase your question.

So what? before something is "fully developed" it's "perfectly okay" to stop its growth?

And my answer is, "If the female who is brewing that entity doesn't want it" well YES!!(I'm pro choice I thought I had left that clear, so apparently you can't even understand the obvious, well you weren't kidding when you said your brain isn't fully developed)


I was questioning you because I suspect you're just saying "embryo, not human baby" in order to make abortion sound okay

Abortion is okay.


which isnt a valid argument.

Then why does the development of the fetus is the most significant fact that determines the morality of abortion?


I'm pro-choice to an extent by the way.

Theres no such thing your'e either pro-choice because you fully back up that choice or don't.

If a couple had consensual sex, didnt properly use protection and can manage it financially, they keep it.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! What ah! hahahaha! You think that the only think that people worries when they think about parenthood is the money? Also didn't properly use protection? You do realize that condoms aren't always sure right? 


It wouldnt be "people controlling them"

You just said they if they can financially manage it they keep it and that's not controlling it? If they can manage it yeah right. I can imagine it: You two can afford a baby now have it, But But… I have dreams and a demanding career and having a kid is very life consuming, and I don't want to have a baby right know. Deciding for other people the criteria of how they should keep or abort a fetus isn't controlling them pal?


it would be them being irresponsible and forgetting that sex is not only for fun in the end.

My sexual encounters purpose are what I and my partner decide. And if you don't like it too bad.


I'm okay with sex for fun but for fuck's sake no more "oh noes we had sex and a fetus formed, what the fuck??? remove it!!"

If you don't have the guts to back up your sexual relationships and you aren't willing to take the hard choices that's up to you. Me on the other hand made my choice when I say "remove it" a long time ago.

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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015
*Noo you didnt, you literally told me that life doesnt begin at conception
*Yes I think so
*yes, and the skeleton too which isnt fully complete until puberty... as a whole, a newborn is still very fragile and overall completely dependent on its parents.:lmao:
Well your brain obviously isnt fully developed either because you didnt get that I understood you were pro-choice.
*:iconmindblownplz:I know it's fucking acceptable, I said "sound" because just using vocabulary to eliminate any emotional appeal toward a fetus does not make a good point.
*because at some point it shouldnt be possible anymore to consider a fetus as a disposable clump of cells.
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*well if you abort while being fully able to support it meh fuck it, do what you want, it's not like I care.:lol: and I think there's that "tomorrow's pill" if the condom breaks?
*Okay, it would be controlling people who fail to control themselves!
*It's not me not liking it it's how nature originally meant it.:B
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Preach it!
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015
Should I use the word Embryo? or Fetus?
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I would use the word fetus. And embryo is pretty much a cell.
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Zidneya Featured By Owner Edited Mar 7, 2015
Here it is.
I apologize I did it in a hurry. It's a little rough.
zidneya.deviantart.com/art/Lea…
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, I love the stamp you made! It looks great!
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:iconzidneya:
Zidneya Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015
Thanks.
I didn't even asked you that if it is okay to mention you in the stamp description, is it okay?

I even made another stamp anticipating the (predictable) complains.

zidneya.deviantart.com/art/Abo…
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That would be fine c:

And I like the new stamp too ^^
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The fetus, from the moment it's formed, is under full custody of the parents. It may not be a part of the woman's body, but until it becomes a baby, it is her property. Go on, argue with me. I fucking dare you.
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Hoshi-0461 Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Ftmry by Hoshi-0461
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Ajones123 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015
Derp
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SnivelGriffoon Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmmm derp to you as well
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Ajones123 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015
yep
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somedudefromEARTH Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for making this stamp.
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fidofia Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I am grateful for all the nice people in these comments who actually have good things to say.
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Phoenix-Galaxy1010 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2015  New member Hobbyist Artist
Baby's are parasites. When mothers say I'm pregnant I think of the movie alien when a baby alien pops out of the stomic. XD we where all parasites feeding off what our mother fed us. Fuck, we where all like tapeworms!! Oh and if you had a virus , you probably wouldent wanna take care of it cause oh all life is precious awwwhhh. Yes I'm comparing a baby to a virus. The baby is not alive until it takes its first breath. It can't think, or feel pain. It just makes the host nausious and eats what the mother consumes therefore its a parasite.
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Tanadia Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't care, my body comes first :)
If something's growing in my womb and I don't want it there, its getting the coat hanger. 
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GantzAistar Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015
How about using birthcontrol first?
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Tanadia Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do use birth control ;D
Nothing is a 100% and I'm not going to stop having sex with my fiance. 
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Ajones123 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Congrats
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Tanadia Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why thank you
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Ajones123 Featured By Owner 3 days ago
I'll have you know that I was being sarcastic. Sex and pregnancy is disgusting. I'm an asexual virgin and I'm proud of it. I'll be praying that you won't get STD's like a lot of poor delusional women nowadays such as yourself. Eh. It's probably already too late.
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GantzAistar Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015
True. It is the safest if both partners would use it. I also find there should be more contraceptions for men.
And if you never want kids(like me), try to get fixed permanently. And even if the doctor is a dick and refuses it, fight for it or change the doctor.
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Tanadia Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's the challenge. 
Finding a doctor that is willing to tie my tubes.
Still, if I end up getting pregnant and I don't want it, I'm flushing the fetus out.
No one can make me stay pregnant against my will. 
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GantzAistar Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015
But it is also your and your partner's responsibility. Sounds harsh, but it is true; Sex is mainly meant for reproduction. And there is also the morning after pill.
I also find that people in general give up too easily.
I think if a person wants to get herself/himself fixed they should do it. Much better than destroying a life and often the woman's bodies.
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holyhell111 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2015  Student Photographer
just my opinion.
personally there should be a choice to the mother always, cant force her to take care of a child that is unwanted and may end up in foster care living a very terrible life, yes its the woman responsibility to take care of the child but as well as the father who helped create it.
both should take responsibility not just the mother. i think woman when they reach a certain age and they do not want children they should have the option of getting fixed. (if later they change their mind to bad)  i dont like the idea of a unborn child being aborted when it was not their fault but i also dont agree with a child being born into this world unloved by their mother and if father is still around him to.
i will always will believe that a woman should always have the rights to chose.
birth control should be free as well. 
these are my thoughts on this matter.
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undeaddoktor Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015
if you live in my body you gon live by my rules. now u gonna get aborted whether u like it or not
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sophia-the-bookworm Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015
It's not my fault I'm in your body, it's yours for either being stupid or lazy. How is this my fault?
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Fun-dragoness Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE
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sophia-the-bookworm Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015
I accept that rape is a controversial area for this. I understand wanting abortion after being raped, and I won't stop you. After all, rape is no one's fault but the one who does the raping, and people who are unable or unwilling to care for any children should not have to.
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Fun-dragoness Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh... I thought you were one of those "rape is the victim's fault" pro-lifers.  I'm sorry!! :(
I'm glad you understand ^~^
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undeaddoktor Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015
if you live in my body you gon live by my rules. now u gonna get aborted whether u like it or not
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sophia-the-bookworm Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015
I'm not even going to waste my time with someone who can't even spell properly, or use proper grammar.
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undeaddoktor Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015
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61021376 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015
I cant help but think we all were a fetus once.
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Fun-dragoness Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah.  But we are no longer.
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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
We also were children once, we are no longer and yet we still care about what happens to children.
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Fun-dragoness Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Because children are already born.
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61021376 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
And that doesnt solve the problem does it?
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